The Best Speakers We've Ever Heard Cost $99 (Part 2)

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A while back, I made the mistake of comparing my old Polk TSi100 bookshelf speakers against much more expensive speakers. Somehow, my cheap speakers won. Now it's time for round two. 

In that first test, I preferred the Polk TSi100 speakers. So did everyone else who listened blind. Naturally, that made audiophiles angry. The main criticism was that I was using bookshelf speakers as near field computer speakers, and that I should be comparing them to proper studio monitors instead.

So that is exactly what I did.

I brought in over $15,000 worth of studio monitors, from cheaper options all the way up to $6,000 speakers. I also used expensive DACs so nobody could blame the test on a cheap switcher or bad signal path. I listened for weeks, moved speakers into different rooms, tested at different distances, measured them, tried EQ, added room correction, used mono, tested one speaker at a time, and then brought in other people for blind comparisons.

The first thing I learned is that speaker placement and room interaction are everything. On my desk, the Neumann monitors sounded incredible. Everyone picked them as the favorite in that near field setup. The bass was tight, smooth, and surprisingly deep for their size. I immediately started looking for used pairs online because I thought I had finally found the upgrade I had been looking for.

But then I moved the speakers downstairs into a larger room, and everything changed. The Neumann monitors, Focal monitors, and JBL monitors all started sounding much more similar than I expected. The bass response changed completely. The speakers I thought I understood in one room became totally different speakers in another.

That was the biggest lesson of the whole test: the room can matter more than the speaker.

The other shock was that my old Polk TSi100 speakers won again in the larger room. Without a subwoofer, without special EQ, and without any fancy setup, everyone picked the Polk TSi100 speakers over the expensive studio monitors. I do not think the Polk TSi100 speakers are technically better than something like the Neumann monitors. I’m sure the Neumann monitors are more accurate, better built, and more capable. But in that room, with that placement, the Polk TSi100 speakers simply sounded more enjoyable.

This is where things get frustrating. Once you add EQ, room correction, and a subwoofer, everything changes again. With something like a WiiM Amp Pro, EQ software, Room EQ Wizard, and a basic subwoofer, I can make my old cheap speakers sound better to me than far more expensive speakers running flat. That makes comparing speakers almost impossible, because with enough correction, you can radically change how any of them sound.

The biggest surprise recommendation from the test was the JBL monitors. They are affordable, powered, have far more bass than I expected, and sounded shockingly good compared to speakers costing many times more. If someone wants a simple desktop speaker setup today, that is probably where I would start.

But the bigger point is this: I went into this test ready to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade my office audio. After weeks of testing, I came away realizing that once a speaker is good enough, the room, placement, EQ, and subwoofer matter more than I ever expected.

I still do not fully understand why my 15 year old Polk TSi100 speakers keep winning these tests, and that is why I am not done. I have already bought more expensive modern Polk bookshelf speakers to see if I can find that same sound in something people can actually buy today.

This article only covers the main things I learned. The full video at the top of this post goes much deeper into the tests, the speaker comparisons, the blind reactions, and the absurdity of this whole process, so watch the full video if you want the complete story.

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11 Comments

With the Genelec's You should have been feeding them with AES/EBU digital and as you don't need a DAC. All the room correction should also have been done with the GLM system built into the speakers. There is no point spending the money if you don't use what they have built in. And before anyone says you have to use a DAC, if you do, you are just adding noise, because it will be converted back into digital to be run through the built in DSP. They are very detailed monitors, with a very flat output.
The other thing i would say is, if you have spent day in day out listening to a pair of speakers, you will grown to like them. Its all very subjective. I once spent some time with a quite famous mastering engineer and in he process of mastering albums, he would swap from room to room, speakers and his car. When doing mixing and mastering myself, you don't want too much bass

They are very good. It is a very personal choice. The one thing genelecs are very good for it is taking them to different places and using the GLM system to give you the same constant sound. There are a lot of similar systems out there. BTW your price seems very high, i can get the 8331's for about £3500 $4700 here in the uk. I think you need a pair of 8381's for a nice 5000w per channel and £60,000 🤣

I think the reason the Neumanns sounded so good and the Genelecs sounded so thin in my first test was because we were so pulled away from the rear wall and the Newmann had front faces bass ports shooting bass forward where the genelecs was firing backwards. I wish I had tested the Genelec's in other places but to be honest, they are so ugly, and so expensive, I knew I would never buy them.

This kinda skips the important question: What exactly are you needing the speakers FOR? If it's mastering/editing, the neutral flatness of quality near field monitors is what you're looking for. If it's enjoyable listening, you're looking for something entirely different.

Ya I didn’t make that clear. These are being used as computer speakers. I use them to edit videos and also to listen to music and ingest infinite YouTube videos.

...why is anyone shocked that speakers connected to an actual receiver sound better than monitor speakers plugged directly into a computer?

Because most digital to audio converters use the exact same chips and the macbook's dac is suppose to be fantastic.

This doesn’t surprise me at all.

No surprise at all. Most "hi-fi" speakers are an assemblage of off-the-shelf parts which you can buy yourself for a fraction the price. Lots of people DIY their own speakers getting results that equal or surpass name-brand systems. Just search youtube for "DIY speakers" and see what people have cooked up in their garage.

For our interest sake, the point is moot. Those Polk speakers aren't available anymore.